Exclusive: Thune believes Trump is willing to listen on AI guardrails despite public defiance

Senate Majority Leader John Thune says President Trump is "not really dug in" against guardrails for AI , despite Trump's public campaign against restricting the technology.

Why it matters: Thune told Axios he spoke privately with Trump as the AI issue was getting "pretty hot" a few weeks ago and believes some of Trump's strong pushback is against public "paranoia and noise around the subject." Thune reads Trump's position as a preference for companies coming up with ways to secure their systems, rather than Congress or the administration.

That approach relies more on experts to provide guidance.

Trump has called recent fears around AI safety a "hoax." "I do think that the threats are real," Thune told Axios in an interview on Wednesday at his Capitol office.

Zoom out : Thune has Trump's skepticism in one ear and tech leader alarm in the other.

Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei called Thune to discuss AI safety before sounding his latest public alarm on the risks of AI, Thune told Axios.

The two also talked about Thune's AI bill.

What to watch: "I think you have to have at least some sort of a plan and some guardrails around it, which is what I think our bill does," Thune said, referencing the bill he has introduced with Sen.

Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) in past years.

"But I do also think that there are people who are... doing a lot of fear mongering," Thune added.

Thune's bill, which has not yet been reintroduced this Congress, puts the onus on tech companies to mitigate AI risks.

It also requires AI companies to report on any serious risks with frontier models and to come up with plans to address the concerns.

Thune said Klobuchar is trying to get more Democratic co-sponsors on board — including Sens.

Chris Coons (D-Del.) and Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) — before re-introducing the bill.